Friere’s ideal student-teacher relationship is very similar to mine. I believe the best way to learn is to be comfortable in the environment you are in and the people you are with. Every single person in the class room can teach you something. Everyone’s minds work differently and understand certain things easier. When I had the easiest time learning was when I had a great teacher-student relationship. Where I could feel comfortable talking to them and asking questions. I completely agree with Friere’s ideas in that hands on learning is so much more productive than memorizing things. There is no meaning to that and you will eventually forget the things you memorized. In my opinion Friere said no wrong, he knew exactly what he was talking about and I could not agree more.
Erik Beil…. Freie HUH? September 10, 2007
I found this text to be very confusing. I couldn’t tell whether it was his theory banking education or the problems with it. I guess I did agree with the fact that he believe it’s up to the students whether or not they listen and learn, but narrative teaching = sleep for most students. D.) My Ideal student teacher relationship would be nothing like “the oppressor” and the “oppressed.” I really like talking to my teachers about what interests me in the current subject or just discussing something off topic that i believe they can help with. I also think that it’s not the teachers job to come to the student and do the same thing. If we want help we need to be comfortable asking not being asked. Well I guess that’s my two cents and hopefully I’ll get this thing explained to me in class today.
Anarchist Rocky would give his own cup of coffee to Friere September 10, 2007
My ideal classroom would be very similar to Friere’s. I felt that my best teachers that I had in high school always treated me as an equal and we both would compliment each other for teaching each other different ideas and subjects. I feel like this class is somewhat close to Friere’s idea as we are allowed to voice our own opinion on the essays we read, as long as you take the initative and responsibility to post it. We can also leave comments on each others postings so we are all student-teachers, which is awesome. Also with this style of teaching, I believe that people usually carry on a learning and teaching mindset out of the classroom, therefore always keeping your mind active.
Teachers Vs. students? kyles’ thoughts September 10, 2007
The classroom needs to be a place of education and exploration. The basics of education revolve around a desire to learn, followed by a routine of questions and awnsers to enforce the new thoughts. The process works as long as the student has the desire, when that desire or interest is lost the learning process is severly hampped. The thought that Freire offers in the second paragraph, is stricklingly close to the truth. The dissengaged student will detract from the learning enviroment and detract from the quality of the class. The responsibility does not nessecerily fall to the teacher to maintain the students’ interest, however a entriguing teacher leads to a responsive class. The educator needs to maintain a class disapline, while making the class provakative. It is then the students job to interact with the educator in a responsive, respectful manner. with these “rules of interaction” between teacher and student the education process will be able to work for all involved.
I am not a trash receptacle September 10, 2007
When I first started reading this text and had to listen to him talk about and compare students’ minds to an object much like a garbage can, I wondered what kind of garbage I was really reading. I thought this is absurd from a writer from the 1900’s. Therefore, i was pleasantly surprised at the end when he began talking about liberating education. Im not sure if I really understand why he spent most of this piece talking about his garbage can theory and hardly touched on this authentic thinking. I can honestly say I completely agree with what he had to say in the end of this read. I like to think of even the most uneducated youth to have some sort of education they have developed outside of their classroom and outside of their teacher simply pouring knowledge, not learned, but memorized into their head. I know from experience that yes we learn from our teachers and those that know more than us, however, I really like how he said that they learn from us as well. All I can say is that from experience in high school and college, I know that I am not merely an empty vessel, everday being filled with knowledge because someone is forcing it to be there. I am a conscious person who learns from others and they learn from me, although college would be much easier if teachers would just simply pour knowledge in while I sat there and I could use it at my immediate disposal.
Christopher M. on the banking concept September 10, 2007
Hello, I definetly agree with the idea that the solution is not with the banking concept. As the quote on page 532 pretty much sums it up. ” The solution is not (nor can it be) found in the banking concept. On the contrary, banking education maintains and even stimulates the contradiction through the following attitudes and practices, which miror oppressive society as a whole.” (pg.532) This sounds right to me. Honestly who likes the old way of the private church schools where a man or woman in black stands at the front of the class and utters monotenous information that is so called an education. That pretty much is a general example of the way the banking concept is described. I say let me speak up in class if I feel that my opinion is needed and let the teacher listen when it is asked for.
Ross: My Ideal Classroom September 10, 2007
Friere put it quite well when he defined education as a form of banking. I noticed this in my junior year of high school, that even though I was being taught I wasn’t really learning a vast amount of knowledge. My mind would be “deposited” with information but later on, as if my mind was full I would forget many things. For example, we spent a whole month on the revolutionary war. I could tell you a little bit about it but it certainly wouldn’t be a whole months worth of hard studying and memorization.
The ideal classroom for me would be one where I could retain the knowledge I acquire. I like Freire’s “problem-posing” form of education. While a regular classroom will cover a unit and you might not ever need that information again my ideal classroom would have you use what you have learned everyday.
Friere September 10, 2007
Paulo Friere’s concept of education is very similar to Socrates’ teaching methods. Friere says, “The teachers cannot think for her students, nor can she impose her thought on them.” Friere is tring to say that information cannot be given to the student, the students themselves must find out that information on their own with the teacher keeping their minds on track to that answer. Socrates taught by method of the students must think for themselves. In Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, Socrates tells a story to Glaucon who questions certain aspects of Socrates’ story. By asking these questions Glaucon learns the answers, not because Socrates told him the direct answers. However, Socrates was able to get Glaucon to discover it on his own through indirect answers. Friere says that by feeding the students with information, the students become “containers” that don’t apply that information into everyday life. Socrates was able to get his students to apply their knowledge in everyday life because their world was surrounded by mysterious events, that are now known to be unmysterious. For example, when a comet flew across the night sky the people thought of it as bad omen. Today, we see it as a beautiful wonder in the night sky. I agree with Friere’s concept of education, which is that the teachers should open the students minds, and not to just fill their heads with tons of information.
Caleb’s Ideal Classroom September 10, 2007
I think my ideal classroom relationship between students and teachers completely coincides with Freire’s. I believe the teacher must act as a leader, however I think the less authoritarian the style of leadership, the more ideal student-teacher relationship will be created. There does need to be a distinction between the teacher and the students. Pure democracy cannot exist in a classroom type setting. This environment must be a “massaged democracy”. If everyone in the classroom had the same authority nothing would be accomplished. However, as Freire says on pg 534 “authority must be on the side of freedom, not against it.” There needs to be a dominate figure(teacher), but the role of the figure should be to inspire synergy toward a common goal of learning particular information. On page 531 Freire says “Narration leads the students to memorize mechanically the narrated content.” I believe the role of the teacher should be to guide the class through the material rather that recite, or “narrate” the material and then have the students regurgitate it. The students should be exposed to new material and then led into some form of discussion or project where the teacher, as well as the other students, should reflect the ideas and opinions of each other amongst themselves.
